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Tuesday, July 26, 2005
Fanaticism born of Feebleness
The opponent of Caesar, Pompey and Crassus, Marcus Porcius Cato the Younger from Romano-Briton (read: Cato from England), has asked me to kindly post on his behalf, this excellent piece of research along with his conclusions contained therein:
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I've been looking at the Qu'ran. A most interesting exercise for anyone who is tempted to believe that Allah encourages people to blow themselves up in public places. As far as I can tell, these are the bits which people use to justify suicide bombing, and/or blaming suicide bombing on El Islam:
From Chapter 3:
3.169: And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and)are provided sustenance from their Lord;
3.170: Rejoicing in what Allah has given them out of His grace and they rejoice for the sake of those who, (being left) behind them, have not yet joined them, that they shall have no fear, nor shall they grieve.
3.171: They rejoice on account of favor from Allah and (His) grace, and that Allah will not waste the reward of the believers.
3.172: (As for) those who responded (at Ohud) to the call of Allah and the Apostle after the wound had befallen them, those among them who do good (to others) and guard (against evil)shall have a great reward.
3.173: Those to whom the people said: Surely men have gathered against you, therefore fear them, but this increased their faith, and they said: Allah is sufficient for us and most excellent is the Protector.
3.174: So they returned with favor from Allah and (His) grace, no evil touched them and they followed the pleasure of Allah; and Allah is the Lord of mighty grace.
Very well, so this seems to suggest martyrs are 'alive' after death, and have a blessed afterlife. But 19 chapters later it's more specific:
22.57: And (as for) those who disbelieve in and reject Our communications, these it is who shall have a disgraceful chastisement.
22.58: And (as for) those who fly in Allah's way and are then slain or die, Allah will most certainly grant them a goodly sustenance, and most surely Allah is the best Giver of sustenance.
22.59: He will certainly cause them to enter a place of entrance which they shall be well pleased with, and most surely Allah is Knowing, Forbearing.
So, here we have a specific reward for those who die in the service of God, an incentive, if you will; combined with the suggestion that unbelievers will have a nasty treatment. However, if we are to take the example of the martyrdom of Hussein, it would seem that "flying
in Allah's way" is supposed to be a passive martyrdom, like the Christian saints who were killed for following the teachings of Christ and rejecting the Pagan gods. Nor does it suggest that anyone apart from God should give the infidel "disgraceful chastisement". Indeed, given the following passage it would seem that smiting those unbelievers by exploding oneself on buses is strictly forbidden even if believers were allowed to take the "chastisement" into their own hands:
4.29: O you who believe! do not devour your property among yourselves falsely, except that it be trading by your mutual consent; and do not kill your people; surely Allah is Merciful to you.
4.30: And whoever does this aggressively and unjustly, We will soon cast him into fire; and this is easy to Allah.
So it would seem to me that both the Islamo-Bolshevist fanatics and the Islamophobes are a bit off the mark when they choose to imply that the Koran is somehow at fault in all this unpleasantness.
On the other hand, all the above is also somewhat ambiguous, and it wouldn't be hard to misinterpret any of it... Although once again, here we have:
3.7: He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding.
Now, this latter to me looks like a lot of bet-hedging.
So to what conclusion, then, do we come? That this is nothing more nor nothing less than a religion, with all the usual ambiguity and vacuous instructions which are open to use in justifying virtually anything which one cares to do or to forbid. The moral? God help anyone who needs a moral compass to be imposed from some external source, and god protect us from such feeble minded people.
POSTED BY CATO FROM ENGLAND AT 9:55PM
POSTED BY: The Monarchist AT 9:55 p.m. | LINKS |
The opponent of Caesar, Pompey and Crassus, Marcus Porcius Cato the Younger from Romano-Briton (read: Cato from England), has asked me to kindly post on his behalf, this excellent piece of research along with his conclusions contained therein:
_______________
I've been looking at the Qu'ran. A most interesting exercise for anyone who is tempted to believe that Allah encourages people to blow themselves up in public places. As far as I can tell, these are the bits which people use to justify suicide bombing, and/or blaming suicide bombing on El Islam:
From Chapter 3:
3.169: And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and)are provided sustenance from their Lord;
3.170: Rejoicing in what Allah has given them out of His grace and they rejoice for the sake of those who, (being left) behind them, have not yet joined them, that they shall have no fear, nor shall they grieve.
3.171: They rejoice on account of favor from Allah and (His) grace, and that Allah will not waste the reward of the believers.
3.172: (As for) those who responded (at Ohud) to the call of Allah and the Apostle after the wound had befallen them, those among them who do good (to others) and guard (against evil)shall have a great reward.
3.173: Those to whom the people said: Surely men have gathered against you, therefore fear them, but this increased their faith, and they said: Allah is sufficient for us and most excellent is the Protector.
3.174: So they returned with favor from Allah and (His) grace, no evil touched them and they followed the pleasure of Allah; and Allah is the Lord of mighty grace.
Very well, so this seems to suggest martyrs are 'alive' after death, and have a blessed afterlife. But 19 chapters later it's more specific:
22.57: And (as for) those who disbelieve in and reject Our communications, these it is who shall have a disgraceful chastisement.
22.58: And (as for) those who fly in Allah's way and are then slain or die, Allah will most certainly grant them a goodly sustenance, and most surely Allah is the best Giver of sustenance.
22.59: He will certainly cause them to enter a place of entrance which they shall be well pleased with, and most surely Allah is Knowing, Forbearing.
So, here we have a specific reward for those who die in the service of God, an incentive, if you will; combined with the suggestion that unbelievers will have a nasty treatment. However, if we are to take the example of the martyrdom of Hussein, it would seem that "flying
in Allah's way" is supposed to be a passive martyrdom, like the Christian saints who were killed for following the teachings of Christ and rejecting the Pagan gods. Nor does it suggest that anyone apart from God should give the infidel "disgraceful chastisement". Indeed, given the following passage it would seem that smiting those unbelievers by exploding oneself on buses is strictly forbidden even if believers were allowed to take the "chastisement" into their own hands:
4.29: O you who believe! do not devour your property among yourselves falsely, except that it be trading by your mutual consent; and do not kill your people; surely Allah is Merciful to you.
4.30: And whoever does this aggressively and unjustly, We will soon cast him into fire; and this is easy to Allah.
So it would seem to me that both the Islamo-Bolshevist fanatics and the Islamophobes are a bit off the mark when they choose to imply that the Koran is somehow at fault in all this unpleasantness.
On the other hand, all the above is also somewhat ambiguous, and it wouldn't be hard to misinterpret any of it... Although once again, here we have:
3.7: He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding.
Now, this latter to me looks like a lot of bet-hedging.
So to what conclusion, then, do we come? That this is nothing more nor nothing less than a religion, with all the usual ambiguity and vacuous instructions which are open to use in justifying virtually anything which one cares to do or to forbid. The moral? God help anyone who needs a moral compass to be imposed from some external source, and god protect us from such feeble minded people.
POSTED BY CATO FROM ENGLAND AT 9:55PM
POSTED BY: The Monarchist AT 9:55 p.m. | LINKS |
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